Do You Hear My Voice NOW?
"What kind of men protect a child sexual abuser?"
Are these men ...
"... Fearful of simple questions?"

Something To NOT Be Proud Of!

Are You Kidding?

Why are grown men fearful of simple questions?
What type of men are 
fearful of questions?
What type of men will seek to silence those who ask the hard questions which reveal the truth about those men who are confirmed sexual abusers of young girls?  Is it men who know they are wrong?

Does this video apply to these men and those around them?

"Why do pastors protect men who are confessed sexual abusers of children?"

Pastor Caleb Counterman

Duane Ehrler

Pastor Dale Williams

Faith Baptist Church Morris IL

111 E Illinois Ave, Morris, IL 60450
Phone: (815) 942-0336
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Linked In ~ click here ~
Facebook ~ ? ~
Twitter ~ ? ~

Attends Faith Baptist Church of Morris IL

860 West Jackson Street
Morris, IL 60450
Phone: 815-258-5245
Employed for most of his life
Narvick Bros. Lumber & ACE Hardware
(815) 942-1173
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Emmanuel Baptist Church
Warrenville IL

3S465 Briggs St, Naperville, IL 60563
Phone: (630) 393-2565
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Linked In ~ click here ~



Are there other men connected?  ~ click here ~

Should others in the community be aware of risks?

Questions Which Seem To Create Fear

What protects a whole community from the great wrongs of those in leadership?   What protects a community or group of people from leaders who protect sexual pedophiles?  What protects people from blindly following leaders who are fearful of ... QUESTIONS?  

Curious + Questions = Reveals Truth ... "And The Truth Will Set You Free!"

When we do not fear Questions ... 
We Heal ... 
... As the Truth Will Set Us Free!

  • Caleb and Dale, as pastors, why do you gossip behind people's backs, call it pastoral consideration and seek to silence those who seek to reveal truth, protecting a man who confessed to being a sexual abuser of young children?  Is this why you hope that your silence will silence others?  Why as pastors, do you not listen to the voices of those you have hurt?  Do You Hear My Voice NOW?
  • Duane, why do you confess to sexually abusing a young girl and then lie years later?   Why do you allow your wife and your pastor to protect you rather than helping the individual(s) you have abused?   Do you think your silence will silence others?   Do You Hear My Voice NOW?

Will Families Help?

  • Mothers ~ If there was a confessed sexual abuser in your church would you want to be aware of this or would it be alright for the pastor to keep this information from you?
  • Parents ~ If you attended a church where one of the long-term members, who is known as a really nice and helpful guy, but was also a confessed child sexual abuser of children, would you want to be aware of that or allow the pastor to be the only one who knew?  Do you believe that someone who sexually abused his own daughter at the age of 12 years old or younger and did for many years after, should be trusted around your young girls and boys?
  • Grandparents ~ Would you risk your granddaughters being around a confessed child sexual abuser?   
  • Men ~ Would you want your daughters to be around a confessed child sexual abuser without knowing about this man's past?  Would you want to make this decision for your child or would you want a pastor making it on your behalf?  Would you trust a pastor who hid what he knew about this man's past from others in the church?  
  •     > As a man, do you believe a man who started to sexually abuse his daughter at 12 years old, if not sooner, is someone who should be allowed to be around girls or children in general?
  •     > If this man confessed to multiple people but then lied about it to authorities, would you trust this man around your daughters?  Can he be trusted around any children?  
  • Protection of that man by his wife and pastor ~ What type of a wife of a sexual abuser  when confronted with it says... "All fathers do that"?  What type of a weak man, sexually abuses his daughter for 7+ years and then gets his wife and pastor to protect him?  Would you attend a church like this?
  • What type of a pastor ... hears of sexual abuse first hand and then rationalizes that behavior and then recommends that the man who abused the young woman, not meet with a counselor to help his daughter to heal?  If this same man then misleads and lies to the police about it should this type of man be a pastor of a church?  Would you attend a church this pastor lead?    

Will The Community Help?

  • Will The Community Help . . . Will YOU Help By Sharing These Questions With Others You Know?
  • Police / Law Enforcement ~ If you went to the Morris IL police department, to file a report, about a father and the pastor protecting him, any idea as to what would happen?  If you were told by the Morris IL police department that it would be best to go to the sheriff's department to report it, any idea of what their response would be?  Would the sheriff's deputy be more concerned about a lawsuit or protecting little girls?   Would the sheriff's deputy share how concerned he was for a man's reputation than the damage this man did to his daughter? 
  • Local Newspaper ~ If you went to the Morris Herald-News to report it ... would you have a reporter who was very interested in the story, only to have the story killed by the manager or owner of the paper?
  • Do ... people protect "their own" ~ Does this happen in both small and large towns around the world where everyone protects the men and ignore the women who have been hurt and the young girls who are being abused every day?

Social Media can be used for good ... or bad.  Asking questions ... the questions that often sexual abusers and those who protect them, do not want to be asked ... is a good use of social media.

Young girls often will be sexually abused and feel they have no where to go.  They can sense when their own moms won't trust them.  They can sense when teachers, friends, family, and even pastors will not protect them but will protect the abuser.  Women are terrified to reveal the truth because 
they know ... even as young girls how women protect men who are sexual abusers.  

They know ... they can sense ... that if they come forward ... bad things will happen to them ... so they don't.   Instead, they choose to suffer in silence.  Even if you don't know any of the men and the one woman who is being asked questions, sharing these questions with everyone you know ... can help other young girls to GET HELP.  It can empower grown adult women to realize they were not the only one who were abused ... there are others!

Just look at all the stories where men have sexually abused many young girls for years ... and no one stopped them.   IMAGINE ... all the sweet and innocent girls in your life.  Maybe she's only 3 years old ... maybe those little girls are your granddaughters, your daughters, your sisters, your nieces ... take a look at them right now ... and imagine ... a man that you respect could be sexually abusing them right now and she will never tell you.  When you pass these questions along ... you will bring out years, maybe even decades of sexual abuse and other victims ... will take your lead.  You will not only expose the abusers but those who protect the abusers as well ... who are as guilty ... maybe even more guilty than the person who did the abuse.   DO NOT allow your voice or the voice of others to not be heard!!!

So MANY Questions!

  • Will The Community Help . . . Will YOU Help By Sharing This With Others You Know?
  •    > Will you share this url link with everyone you know?   
  •    > Do not be afraid ... "perfect love casts out all fear!"  Right?  
  •       ~ Do not worry about passing this along ... as "The truth will set you free." 
  •    > There is no accusation in this page ... just questions.  Can a pastor, law enforcement, and the judicial system use their God and man given power to take honest questions and seek to silence those who are asking questions through threats of slander or harassment?   Do they think that this will silence the questions or will it cause the questions to spread all over Morris, IL and Warrenville, IL and potentially the world?  
  •    > Do You Hear My Voice ... NOW?!?!  ... ask the questions that some leaders of groups of people do not like asked.   "Do You Year My Voice NOW?"  is a leaderless group of citizens who ask the hard questions, and like a small child ... won't stop asking the questions until answers are provided.  
  • How Do I Help?   The above video helps us to understand that when we are part of a group (church, community, organization, etc.) ... we may be stupid.   We can help by sharing these simple questions with others.   
  • Community ~ How do sexual predators get away with abusing so many young girls and boys for years ... and their victims continue to mourn ... for years ... for decades?
  • Is it ... because the friends, police, judges, the press ... the public say ... "Oh that couldn't have happened" or "But that person is a good Christian" or "That person is a pastor" or "If this was real, there would be more than one person who would make an accusation" or "It couldn't happen in our nice town to nice people"?
  • Are Men The Problem?  Is it ... because men in authority consider other men and say ... "It could ruin a man's life" ... and never give the 12 year old girl consideration?  Do they disregard the young 12 year old girl and the damage that one man, her father, did to her from the first time he touched her and then groomed her, to sexually abusing her from the age of 12 or younger?
  •     > Why would a man ... a father who kept this secret from most for decades ... then share it with his pastor?  When the father lied to police and said he never did anything, would the pastor feel any guilt?   Why would a pastor not be concerned about other young children and not feel a need to share with parents who have a right to know and make the decision for themselves?  
  •     > If the father was put on the witness stand, would he lie there as well?
  •     > Would a judge or jury of his peers find him innocent once all the evidence and testimonies are revealed in court?  
  • Are Women The Problem?  Why would the mother of a young girl who was sexually abused for years ... when confronted with it ... say ... in front of her husband, her daughter, and her daughters fiancée ... "All fathers do this"? 
  •      > Why would a woman do this?  Is it that she was sexually abused by her own father?   Are there harder questions to be asked about her daughters birth father and why he committed suicide? 
  •      > Is it because of fear that her husband will be put in jail and she won't be able to survive financially?
  •      > Is it that the woman just accepted the sexual abuse of her father and expects that her daughter and other women go through the same thing?  
  •      > What leads a mother to abandon her adult daughter, who she could have aborted but instead, brought into this world and then ... allows her daughter to be abused by her husband?  Why would she then justify it and be willing to tell lies to protect her husband from the truth, which in turn, further hurts her daughter?  Why then slander her daughter and others ... which brings further hurt to her daughter, her children, grandchildren and great grandchildren for her husband's sexual abuse of her daughter and her own failing as a mother?
  •          ~ Would you want your daughters around this man and his wife?   Would you want them as neighbors or anywhere around your children?  
  •      > What level of fear does a grown woman have to deceive and lie about her own daughter and to abandon her daughter and grandchildren?  Did the sexual abuse of her own father and maybe others create mental illness or a delusional way of thinking that it wasn't that bad ... or you had worse things happen?  What goes on in the mind of a mother who allows herself to get to this point?
  •      > Did you get upset at your teenage daughter when the sexual abuse was stopped  and said "You shouldn't have told anyone"?   What kind of a mother allows her young daughter to get sexually abused and then berates her daughter after she has the courage to tell someone and not put a stop to it?

Are Pastors A BIG Part Of The Problem?

  • Would a pastor who has hopes of being an elected and respected community leader bring a lawsuit against people who ask hard questions?  
  •               * Would that pastor risk putting the father who sexually abused his daughter for 7+ years on the witness stand for his own selfish ambitions?  
  •               * Does the pastor think that the father would lie in court?  Does the pastor think that the mother would lie in court?  
  •               * Does the pastor think that subtle threats of slander or harassment will stop people from asking questions?
  •           ~ Pastor Caleb Counterman ... you shared with the Sheriff's deputy in the public police report that you "Felt a moral and legal obligation to share if you were aware of any sexual abuse."  Is that really true?   Why are you involved in the first place if there is nothing true about the story?   If there is not truth, then what do you need consent to release?  
  •               * So Caleb, do you feel a moral obligation to share what Duane Ehrler shared with you about how he sexually abused his teenage daughter and how he exposed himself to her?
  •                   - If you were before a judge ... would you swear under oath that Duane never touched his daughter or exposed himself to her?   Or would you invoke "pastoral privacy rights" or would you just hope that due to the statute of limitations that it would never get to the courts?  
  •                  - Do you feel a moral obligation to let those in the leadership of your church know about that situation ... OR ... are you fearful of this getting out to the church or community?  Are you fearful that if the truth would get out about what you, Duane, and Rosalie talked about ... and those actions that you took afterwards that young moms and dads would no longer attend your church?
  •                 - Are you fearful that if the truth comes out that your political ambitions and your entire economic engine ... your career as a pastor would be forever lost?
  •                 - Do you feel a moral obligation to inform all the fathers and mothers in your church about what Duane shared with you so they can make a decision?                 
  • Child Sexual Abuser ~ What would you do if you had someone in your church who was a confessed child sexual abuser?
  • Sexual abuse of a teenager girl ~ What kind of a father confesses that he sexually abused his teenage daughter ... and then lies about it?  Are there others he as sexually abused?  Is he still sexually abusing young girls?  
  • Protection of that man - Wife ~ What type of a wife says when confronted with it ... "All fathers do that"?  
  • Pastoral Consideration ~ This is when one pastor gossips with another pastor and gives pieces of the story, but, then justifies it with saying its pastoral consideration.   
  •     > Would Pastor Dale Williams talk with Pastor Caleb Counterman which then trickles down to protecting a dad who sexually abused his daughter for 7+ years? 
  •     > Would Pastor Dale Williams and his deacon board of Neal Charleston, Ray Nieto, and John Hagersonuse send a certified letter threatening the individual with "Do not trespass" because this individual could expose everything and threaten Dale Williams' entire ministry ... his legacy?
  • Pastoral Threats ... Fear In Police ~ What kind of pastors threaten a sheriffs deputy subtly by saying "He borderline harassed me?" ... only to have that sheriff say ... "I can't go back and ask a follow up question as that could be harassment."  We need more proof.  We need more people to come forward.   
  •     > Hmmm ... What type of men in law enforcement give full consideration to the man by thinking, "This could ruin his reputation".  What about the 12 year old girl?   What about other young girls who are at risk now?  
  •    > Is this the type of attitude, that has gotten society a bit ticked at police?   Are men in law enforcement so fearful that they can't even ask a second follow-up question?   Is the fear of being sued, or even the amount of paperwork that comes with being accused of harassment, greater than the consideration of a 12 year old girl who was sexually abused for 7+ years and the damage it did to her and those around her?  
  • Do small communities not like messy? ~ Morris, IL and Warrenville, IL are small towns.  Are all the pastors, churches, police, businesses, community leaders, and media full of fear or do they just want to bury their heads in the sand and cover it up?
  •      > Does it take someone from outside of these small communities to come in and stir things up in order to help protect young girls?  
  • Are You Someone Who Has Courage?  ~ Most people do not have courage and want to believe that a good Christian man who attends church would never do anything like this.  Yes, it's a free country and yes, you are able to go to the church and feel free to ask him and the pastor the same questions.  
  •      > If Duane says ... "There's bad blood ..." or anything else to shift the blame, or minimize, deflect, or distract from answering your question ... you will have your answer.   Ask him directly ... "Did you ever apologize to your daughter and son-in-law for sexually touching and exposing yourself to your oldest step daughter?"   "So, did your wife's father sexually abuse your wife? If a man sexually abuses another man's wife, do you think that maybe there is bad blood because of what you did?"  
  •         ~ If he denies it ... ask him ... "Why would someone say something like this if it wasn't true?"  "Why would your teenage daughter talk to a counselor at Faith Baptist Bible College when she was 18 years old about how you had been abusing her?"  "Why would you confess to it when confronted?"  Why when it was revealed to your wife, in front of you say, "All fathers do that?"  

There are no accusations ... just questions ... to get to the truth.  

Shouldn't parents, not pastors, be the ones who have the required knowledge to make good judgements as to if they expose their daughters to men who have confessed to sexual abuse and those who seem to have their hearts set on protecting the pedophiles?

"Do You Hear My Voice NOW?" is a leaderless organization and worked to connect with Caleb, Dale, and Duane about these questions and they would not answer these questions for us ... SO ... we have decided to go to the public with the questions.  

Caleb, Dale, and Duane, if you have any answers to any of the questions and/or have questions of your own please feel free to email at: DoYouHearMyVoiceNOW@gmail.com   If you are a child or an adult and you have any experiences where you have been sexually abused by any of these three men or someone in their churches please connect with the police and if you do not feel the police will hear your voice ... then by all means please connect with us via email at:  DoYouHearMyVoiceNOW@gmail.com

"Do You Hear My Voice NOW?" interviewed a number of people to develop the best questions to help those who aren't heard be heard.  

We have millions of people we connect with through all different types of methods, so you can have confidence if you connect with us, we will hear your voice as we heard the voice of this brave and courageous woman.  If you would like to help protect other young girls and boys, feel free to send an email to the above address and say "I would like to help."   Trust us, you can do a lot more to help than you realize! 

Are There Other Men Involved?

It's interesting ... isn't it ... where it seems that all of these men are Christian white males over 50 years old?   That seems strange as Christian men, one would think would not be involved in either sexual abuse or protecting sexual abusers or protecting those who protect sexual abusers?

Neal Charleston ~ CPA

~ Linked In click here ~

Company Employed By
Sevan Multi-Site Solutions
(312) 756-7778

Position
Controller

Ray Nieto

~ Linked In click here ~

Company Employed By
Social Security
(630) 420-6666

Position
Information System Security Officer

John Hagerson ~ CFA

~ Linked In click here ~

Company Employed By
First Trust Portfolios
(800) 621-1675

Position
Business Unit Developer

Is there an entire organization that protects sexual abusers?

We saw it with the Catholic church.  We are seeing it with universities and government.  Does it seem to you that organizations are more concerned about themselves than those they serve and the young girls and boys who get sexually abused as a part of being a part of the organization?   Does the GARBC, General Association of Regular Baptist Churches, the organization that both Caleb and Dale have been a part of also hide as both Caleb and Dale have?  Does and organization need to be totally bankrupted to respond?

GARBC

General Association for Regular Baptist Churches

So, What Can I Do?

See Below ...

Did you know the GARBC's policy on sexual abuse reported to them?

When we first read Bernie's email response, well, honestly we were shocked.   

It's the strangest response.   So, let us get this straight.  If a pastor in a GARBC church is sexually abusing girls and/or protecting someone who is, you don't want get involved unless the pastor, the sexual abuser or the protector of those being sexually abused asks you to get involved.   

Hmmm ... that doesn't seem like a very well thought out policy?  
On Thu, Feb 27, 2020 at 8:24 AM Bernie Augsburger <bernie.augsburger@gmail.com> wrote:

    Hi xxxx, 

As the Representative of the IL-MO ARBC I carry no official role over any of our churches. At best one might say I only have a position of influence. This is the way an association of churches functions. 

This means that I can only become involved in a church matter if the Pastor and/or leadership of the church officially asks me to be involved. I have made this option open to Pastor Counterman.

So, while I am aware of your cause and concern for this matter, I respectfully will have to decline involvement as a witness, unless I receive an invitation from the church to serve as a witness in this matter.

    Sincerely,
    Bernie Augsburger
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The GARBC office have been asked for their input and thoughts on this matter and they refuse to comment.   

Are they secretly working behind the scenes to change the policy or are they just ignoring it and hoping it goes away.  

Girls as young as 18 months old get raped.  It's not unusual that a 3, 6 or 9 year old will be sexually abused at the hands of a pastors or a man in a church.  

When you are silent, you are not giving those young girls a chance.  

GARBC Information

(888) 588-1600

Important

Just ASK QUESTIONS ... Do NOT accuse or judge or attack, just ask questions.

NEXT ... Get others to do the same.

Even people who lie, hate being asked the hard questions.  If they try to evade or distract you, or answer questions you did not ask, like Caleb did with the sheriff's deputy and with DVN when we asked questions, you can tell a great deal about the truth.   

So, What Can I Do?

  • Share with others.
We have asked these men and the organizations which employee them for feedback on these questions and all we get is silence

* Do you take 3 minutes and post something in their Google reviews at the companies they work for and ask them for a comment on this and include names of their employees?  "Is this true?" and then paste the url https://www.doyouhearmyvoicenow.com/child-sexual-abuse

NOTE:   With companies and organizations they can ignore one voice but they can not ignore the voice of many.   Take 3 minutes and ask a question and be the voice for young girls.  

* Do you find your local GARBC church and ask them about this policy and ask them if their members know this policy is in place? 
    > Warn ALL members of GARBC churches that they are not protected and their young girls and boys are vulnerable to sexual abuse and the GARBC actually has a policy in place which says they will not do anything if the pastor doesn't invite them to do so. 

* Do you stop by the company / organization office and ask them in-person to comment on this website and the questions presented?

* Do you contact your local news media and ask if they have ever not pursued a sexual abuse story due to fear of older men and their power?  

* Do you contact your local government and ask them if this could happen in your town?  

* What ideas do you have?   Remember ... you are not doing this only to protect other young girls from these types of men, but you are putting notice out to every man around your young daughter / granddaughter that men, even a group of them will NOT silence those who have the smallest voices.  

It may not seem like asking questions of people who won't respond is doing very much, but trust us, it does a great deal!

In the decades of experience Do You Hear My Voice NOW? (DVN?) we have learned that a sheriff's deputy calling and talking to Caleb and then talking to Duane it will put them both on notice that while they seek to silence the voice of those who have the smallest voices, they are being watched.   Caleb seems to have a natural ability, as does Dale and many pastors to be slippery in their answers.   They answer questions that aren't asked and if you keep asking the same hard question again and again, they will soon not speak at all, but their silence says it all, doesn't it?  

Duane can deny that he sexually abused a young girl but those he did confess it to, will always have their testimony.   

Do you find it interesting how weak old men go silent?

Did these men get drawn into something they weren't even aware they were being drawn into?   Will their careers, their economic engines be affected? Will their wives, their children, grandchildren and friends ask them about their silence and them seeking to silence others?  Will the companies they work for, the clients they serve ask them questions they refuse to answer?  Will they be able to silence everyone, or will their participation be exposed for what it is?   Will they plead ignorance and say "I didn't know?"   Will people around them give them grace and mercy or will those around them judge them as they seem to judge others?   

Will other Christian white males, over 50 years old learn the lessons from these men?  Will there be other Christian white males who will seek to jump in and protect those who sexually abuse girls?   Will their wives and daughters feel their pain that the sexually abused girl felt at the hand of their fathers?  Will their daughters allow it or stand up to their own dads and help them to see the hypocrisy of their own lives and call them to account?  

Will the granddaughters of these men be sexually abused by them, their friends or other men?  Who will hear the voice of those who are not able to speak?   If you do not help speak for these young girls, then it's probably fair to say that no one will speak up for your daughter or granddaughter.  Do NOT be delusional and think your girls / granddaughters are protected, as they are not.   

Direct Links To Share With Others

Sad to say, but it seems that men and organizations they work for, often go dark / silent and hope that no one will continue to ask the questions.   Share the following links with others, post to social media, post for Google Reviews, email to friends, family.  If these men and the organizations which protect them continue to remain silent and not answer questions, then we must ask more questions to more people.  The voices of young girls will not be silenced.  Do You Hear My Voice NOW!?!?

Click on the following and share those links with others.